George R.R. Martin Has Written 1,100 Pages of The Winds of Winter, the Same Number as Last Year
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Martin Has Written 1,100 Pages of The Winds of Winter, the Same Number as Last Year - IGN","publisher":{"@type":"Organization","name":"IGN","logo":{"@type":"ImageObject","url":"https://oystatic.ignimgs.com/src/core/img/widgets/global/page/ign-logo-100x100.png"}},"author":{"@type":"Person","name":"","url":"https://www.ign.com/person/ryan_dinsdale"},"dateModified":"2023-11-21T00:02:57.080Z","commentCount":428,"comment":[{"@context":"http://schema.org/","@type":"Comment","datePublished":"2023-11-20","author":{"@context":"http://schema.org/","@type":"Person","name":"beshocked"},"text":"<p>Honestly I find it strange that there’s a lack of good game of thrones video games. After George RR Martin helped with Elden Ring, I thought he'd be pumping out video game after video game.</p>","upvoteCount":27,"downvoteCount":0},{"@context":"http://schema.org/","@type":"Comment","datePublished":"2023-11-20","author":{"@context":"http://schema.org/","@type":"Person","name":"J5Howard"},"text":"<p>I swear I've never gone from \"Favorite thing of all time\" to \"Never want to hear about this thing again in my life\" like I have for the Game of Thrones book series.</p><p></p><p>The fact I always have to hear about this tool as well with how his progress is going (or lack thereof) and how he's collaborating on all these TV and video game projects...it truly just feels like he sold out for the easier paychecks and fame rather than complete the work that made him who he was. </p>","upvoteCount":17,"downvoteCount":0},{"@context":"http://schema.org/","@type":"Comment","datePublished":"2023-11-20","author":{"@context":"http://schema.org/","@type":"Person","name":"LufcMOT"},"text":"<p>Started reading this series about 20 years ago, I have come to accept that it will never be finished - the only closure we get is the awful final series of the tv show. Guessing he gave them broad strokes on how he envisaged it ending and many short cuts and liberties were taken. </p>","upvoteCount":15,"downvoteCount":0},{"@context":"http://schema.org/","@type":"Comment","datePublished":"2023-11-20","author":{"@context":"http://schema.org/","@type":"Person","name":"wuzzgoodhommy"},"text":"<p>Well I might sound pessimistic but personally I dont think hes actually sat down and written anything for these books in years. I think hes just working on his other projects with HBO and the sort and just draggin all hes fans along with the hope that one day he will finish it.</p>","upvoteCount":13,"downvoteCount":0},{"@context":"http://schema.org/","@type":"Comment","datePublished":"2023-11-20","author":{"@context":"http://schema.org/","@type":"Person","name":"ItsOnlyMirrors"},"text":"<p>I doubt he'll ever finish it and there are enough side projects to distract him for years.</p><p></p><p>Honestly if he really wanted to finish it he'd have to clear his schedule and just finish it. </p>","upvoteCount":9,"downvoteCount":0},{"@context":"http://schema.org/","@type":"Comment","datePublished":"2023-11-20","author":{"@context":"http://schema.org/","@type":"Person","name":"TimSanders"},"text":"<p>If you are not happy with the end of the show, look no further than GRRM. If he wrote at the pace I am sure he promised HBO, the show would have adapted the final two books, but money makes a man lazy. I’d he needed a paycheck, those books would be done. </p>","upvoteCount":5,"downvoteCount":0},{"@context":"http://schema.org/","@type":"Comment","datePublished":"2023-11-20","author":{"@context":"http://schema.org/","@type":"Person","name":"taffer19"},"text":"<p>He still has another book to write after this to finish the series. I think there is very little chance he will live long enough to actually finish it.</p><p></p><p>Also, EIGHT spin-off shows? WTF? Why? That's worse than all the Walking Dead spin-off shows.</p>","upvoteCount":24,"downvoteCount":0},{"@context":"http://schema.org/","@type":"Comment","datePublished":"2023-11-20","author":{"@context":"http://schema.org/","@type":"Person","name":"P3FESP4GP5R"},"text":"<p>Imagine waiting all this time for the book and then in a few centuries discover that the ending is the same as the TV series after all.</p>","upvoteCount":6,"downvoteCount":0},{"@context":"http://schema.org/","@type":"Comment","datePublished":"2023-11-21","author":{"@context":"http://schema.org/","@type":"Person","name":"Volleynova"},"text":"<p>To keep all the stories straight, the plot consistent and believable, as well as the several dozen character perspectives to keep in line is beyond unimaginable. He literally has to reread his own books to make sure something lines up with what he is writing now.</p><p></p><p>So I can see why this is taking 15 years to write. </p><p></p><p>The problem is that people are getting old, so is he, and no one wants to leave earth until they have read that second last book in the several decades old series.</p>","upvoteCount":2,"downvoteCount":0},{"@context":"http://schema.org/","@type":"Comment","datePublished":"2023-11-20","author":{"@context":"http://schema.org/","@type":"Person","name":"thismesswearein"},"text":"<p>Literally lost all interest in this series; the books were amazing but its been such a long time and with the TV show diverging and finishing years ago I simply do not care about reading what is essentially an alternative history narrative.</p>","upvoteCount":3,"downvoteCount":0},{"@context":"http://schema.org/","@type":"Comment","datePublished":"2023-11-21","author":{"@context":"http://schema.org/","@type":"Person","name":"ADiestlTrain"},"text":"<p>I’m assuming at this point that he’s writing his drafts on the back of Half-Life 3 design docs.</p><p></p><p>Honestly, I’m okay. I absolutely loved the first three books. They were long, but they were nimble, well-paced, and fascinating in character, world-building, narrative structure, etc. But then I hit Feast for Crows and the whole thing ground to a halt, and I was so exhausted by the slog of getting through it that I never went back for Dance of Dragons.</p>","upvoteCount":1,"downvoteCount":0},{"@context":"http://schema.org/","@type":"Comment","datePublished":"2023-11-20","author":{"@context":"http://schema.org/","@type":"Person","name":"bird3713"},"text":"<p>The man should just enlist Brandon Sanderson to help him out. Sanderson could finish the series off by the end of next year and still release 3 other novels.</p>","upvoteCount":5,"downvoteCount":0},{"@context":"http://schema.org/","@type":"Comment","datePublished":"2023-11-20","author":{"@context":"http://schema.org/","@type":"Person","name":"severus513"},"text":"<p>He's got writer's block. People just need to come to grips that this series will never be finished. </p>","upvoteCount":4,"downvoteCount":0},{"@context":"http://schema.org/","@type":"Comment","datePublished":"2023-11-21","author":{"@context":"http://schema.org/","@type":"Person","name":"EliasSampson"},"text":"<p>Annual reminder that George R.R. Martin is never finishing these books.</p>","upvoteCount":3,"downvoteCount":0},{"@context":"http://schema.org/","@type":"Comment","datePublished":"2023-11-20","author":{"@context":"http://schema.org/","@type":"Person","name":"VillageChief"},"text":"<p>I recommend anyone who's interested in seeing a \"different route taken\" to get to the ending that is already established by the show, listen/read a fanfic series by Preston Jacobs and Crew. I don't like a lot of his theories(ex. E+A=D) but Time Traveling Bran, Dornish Master Plan and Stannis' Night Lamp Battle of Ice(though not originally his theory but pretty sure PJ&Crew will do) are pretty awesome and I would love to see fleshed out in the actual story itself.</p><p></p><p>As much as I love this series, it's dead unfortunately. I cant even watch the show anymore knowing how it ends and I also had a difficult time watching/enjoying HotD, because of GoT. I have no interest in it anymore. I blame two parties though; First being HBO allowing full creative control given to Dan & Dave to speed through seasons 7&8. Second I blame George himself for not finishing what I would call his Magnum Opus, it's really sad.</p>","upvoteCount":1,"downvoteCount":0},{"@context":"http://schema.org/","@type":"Comment","datePublished":"2023-11-20","author":{"@context":"http://schema.org/","@type":"Person","name":"mikeyhavik815"},"text":"<p>I don’t even mind that it’s not done. I mind that he’s literally stopped making progress.</p><p></p><p>I know it’s hard to write, and harder to write up to a sky high fan expectation. But dude… this is your primary job, it’s what everyone knows and loves you for. At this point just hand it off and pull a Robert Jordan, but with the benefit of not waiting until you’re dead so you can at least consult still.</p>","upvoteCount":3,"downvoteCount":0},{"@context":"http://schema.org/","@type":"Comment","datePublished":"2023-11-20","author":{"@context":"http://schema.org/","@type":"Person","name":"steves490"},"text":"<p> No excuse for taking this long. When he dies before dream is released he will be remembered as why people dont invest in new series until they are finished. Thats as polite as i can be without throwing four letter words all over the place. Really hate this guy. Hes just laughing at us counting his money saying “still working on it hundreds more pages to go!” Every year while working on anything but winds. Vote with your wallet. Buy a used copy of winds IF it comes out.</p>","upvoteCount":3,"downvoteCount":0},{"@context":"http://schema.org/","@type":"Comment","datePublished":"2023-11-20","author":{"@context":"http://schema.org/","@type":"Person","name":"Slowburn29"},"text":"<p>GRRM after seeing the backlash the show got for the way it ended even though it was totally what he had planned for the books too.</p>","upvoteCount":2,"downvoteCount":0},{"@context":"http://schema.org/","@type":"Comment","datePublished":"2023-11-20","author":{"@context":"http://schema.org/","@type":"Person","name":"BobbyLouisStevenson"},"text":"<p>I'm glad I never really got into this series, it'd be very frustrating. I read Rothfuss because I was told it was amazing, but that series will never see an end, and I won't pay a dime for it even if it does.</p>","upvoteCount":2,"downvoteCount":0},{"@context":"http://schema.org/","@type":"Comment","datePublished":"2023-11-20","author":{"@context":"http://schema.org/","@type":"Person","name":"NexusChelsea"},"text":"Why doesn't he just collaborate with another author to accelerate the process. His age is increasing to the point where you wonder if he'll even live long enough to finish them","upvoteCount":3,"downvoteCount":0},{"@context":"http://schema.org/","@type":"Comment","datePublished":"2023-11-20","author":{"@context":"http://schema.org/","@type":"Person","name":"CharlieB424"},"text":"I mean, we all saw how the show ended. I think that killed a lot of the excitement for the end of the book.","upvoteCount":2,"downvoteCount":0},{"@context":"http://schema.org/","@type":"Comment","datePublished":"2023-11-21","author":{"@context":"http://schema.org/","@type":"Person","name":"GetMo420"},"text":"<p>At this rate I’ll bet he has 1,100 pages written by this time next year!</p>","upvoteCount":4,"downvoteCount":0},{"@context":"http://schema.org/","@type":"Comment","datePublished":"2023-11-21","author":{"@context":"http://schema.org/","@type":"Person","name":"RobGrizzly"},"text":"<p>Meanwhile, my re-write of season 8 is done!</p>","upvoteCount":2,"downvoteCount":0},{"@context":"http://schema.org/","@type":"Comment","datePublished":"2023-11-20","author":{"@context":"http://schema.org/","@type":"Person","name":"nonweak"},"text":"<p>Part of his problem is the way he writes. He spends like 2 pages describing what the food spread is on the table, or another 2 pages on what one person is wearing who you will never hear about again. Not to mention he introduced so many new characters in Dance with Dragons who were not needed and frankly kinda sucked and not interesting. He needed someone to keep him in check when he decided to do a soft reboot of the story after book 3.</p><p></p><p>Frankly, I felt the show surpassed the books in many ways. It knew who and what to cut.</p>","upvoteCount":3,"downvoteCount":0},{"@context":"http://schema.org/","@type":"Comment","datePublished":"2023-11-20","author":{"@context":"http://schema.org/","@type":"Person","name":"dbl14"},"text":"<p>I wish he'd hire a writing assistant. It's also a chance to groom a protégé to continue Westeros after he's gone. </p>","upvoteCount":2,"downvoteCount":0}]}
Nov 20, 2023
